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Hi everyone, sorry its me again!!! If you've had enough please feel free to pass this one over. I went to get bloods done at hospital this morning, having left a msg for the nurses to call me on Tuesday. While having bloods done, I told the nurse about my pain and swelling etc and that I had called and left msg. She thought they would have called back by now, so suggested I call again today as no one available as all at St Thomas. I wasnt very happy, but what can I do? When I got home I called them again, asking for a call back a s a p. At 3.20 I had my GP appt, I explained what had happend and she said that if the clinic is so booked up the nurses can help, so I then repeated that saga. I asked to to prescribe something for now, and she said "I cant do that, it has to be the specialist, as if something went wrong I would be struck off" I said "I thought GPs could prescribe until seen at clinic" but she still refused. She offered to write to a different consultant as she said that I dont seem to be getting on very well with the team!!! Thats an understatement. I asked how long that would take, and she said around 8 weeks!!! So may as well leave the March appt then!! She also gave me a card for a private consultation at the London Bridge Hospital, which is just around the corner from Guy's. Arrived home at 4 and one of the nurses finally called, I explained the problems and he said, "Oh if you add another folic acid that may help, with the side effects of mtx" (nausea) which I get all weekend after taking the mtx on Friday. But you need to be seen by Laura the specialist nurse, who isnt available at the moment, but I may be able to get her to call you on Monday for a chat. I said that I dont want more mtx added, as its pointless and doesnt work, he said that is all the nurses can do is add to a drug that you are already on. He asked what painkillers I am on and I told him tramadol, he said to add ibuprofen, which I have been doing now for 2 months, also co-codamol, again I already do, if not paracetemol, and none of it works. I asked why I cant have another DMARD added or a depo injection, he said its up to the consultant, they have a plan for each patient, and he doesnt know mine. I asked about the depo injection, and he said I have already had 3. I said I have had the normal steroid one, not the depo, no he said its all the same!! He then said they can get my notes and get Laura to call me hopefully on Monday. As you can imagine, I am not at all hopeful!! I feel like saying, dont even bother!! Will call about the private consultation on Monday, and find out fees etc., cant believe they can do this!! BARBARA
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Joined: 12/3/2009 Posts: 3,157 Location: Huddersfield
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Hi Barbie,
It's like climbing mountains isn't it, trying to get treatment at times? Sorry you are having all these problems. What dose of mtx are you on? If it's less than 20mg it would be worth trying an increased dose to see if it makes a difference, and the extra folic acid should help with the side effects. Hope you can get some rest over the weekend.
Love, Doreen xx
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Hi Barbs sorry hun such run around,the extra folic acid would help with side effects thats what gp did for me in view i told rheumy at next appointment. yes heard the pirvate hospital near guys,funny enough my hubby foot surgeon does private work there. id checked it out online so as to see all his crudentials before spouses operations. they have a website it u wish have look see who they have as rheumy team there. gr so frustrating for u,glad gp said option letter different rheumy team for you. what ever u decide never ahd enough of you hun. u take care. hugs melly cuddly cats make my world seem so much more fun
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Hi Barbara,
Good luck on Monday, and hope that something is gets sorted out soon.
Love,
Barbara XXXXX
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Dear Barbara, My personal opinion on reading all this is if you carry on with all these people they will help make your RA worse NOT better! I have had RA for SO long now and from what I can decipher from reading this is that you are with the wrong people! You need to start ALL over again, be it with a dfifferent GP and a new hospital where the nurses communicate properly with the rheumatologists and know what they are talking about. As for a GP declining to comment upon certain treatments for RA this is understandable but then they should be able to arrange for an emergency NHS appointment if their knowledge is really so poor. I know this may sound a little harsh but these people are only hindering you in gaining decent health care and I would scrap the whole lot and begin again. If you're in London I was recommended a rheumy called Dr Andrew Cope http://www.kcl.ac.uk/sch...tres/cmcbi/groups/cope/ by a Dr friend whom we greatly like and trust. He is (I think) at UCL and excellent. Love, Amanda
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Hi Barbara,
What a nightmare, the last thing you need when you are ill and in pain is a battle with bureaucracy - no wonder most patients just give in and say nothing. Your story makes me appreciate our small local hospital where everyone knows each other - although communication between GP and hospital is atrocious. Something that really needs improvement for RA sufferers! I hope you get some help on Monday
stay sane Alison xxx
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Hi Barbara
No we haven't had enough- I'm sure none of us think that. It's important that you are able to share these difficult times. I'm horrified that you are being given the run around like this at a time of need. If they are so busy then maybe it's because RA is on the increase and the NHS doesn't have the resources to deal with it.?In which case it needs to be addressed. I've had 2 appointments cancelled in succession and I'm beginning to think maybe it's the same in my health authority. I'm lucky that my need isn't so urgent although I'm taking paracetamol and diclofenac every day now and it doesn't seem to be helping much. Sorry to rant- it makes me so angry. Especially if we have to consider going private!oops- sorry- getting on my high horse again! I think Amanda may be right- time for a change, although that can take time.
I hope things can get sorted for you soon
Take care- hope you can get a good rest over the weekend
Maria
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Hi, I can't believe you are getting such a run around. It must be so frustrating! I hope you can get some help on Monday. Try to get some rest over the weekend. Do you have fibromyalgia as well? I was just wondering if maybe one of the treatments used for that would help you? Just a thought.
Take care
Deb x
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Don't be daft! We haven't had enough - but you have, will be thinking of you on Monday. There's some good advice here from people who know your location better, hope something gets sorted very soon. Take care, try to rest and dont ever think theres no-one to listen - there's LOADS of us! (((((Love and Hugs))))) from Liz xxxxx
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Hi everyone, thanks for all the msgs, it means alot. Doreen - my mjtx is at 15 mg, and I truly dont think it will work now, its been since July, with added pill at each visit, so seems pointless to even tgo on with it now. melly - will loo0k up website on London Bridge hospital, thanks for msg hun Amanda - thank you for the info on Mr Cope, I will look into the LBH first. Can I still ask GP fora referral to another rheumy though, as its obvious this isnt working with this team Alison - yes, youre lucky to have a small hospital and everyone knows you! Maria - how many appts do they think they can cancel and just leave you in pain too?? Deb - I havent been diagnosed with fibro, but they are looking into lupus/MCTD Liz, thanks for the kind words, it means alot. Will keep everyone informed. BARBARA
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This really isn't fair, Barb - my heart goes out to you. When you feel absolutely at rock bottom the last thing you need is to have to do battle with the idiots who are supposed to be caring for you.
Everything crossed for a good outcome on Monday.
...and of course we are not fed up with you - that's what the forum is here for - to help and support each other.
Lots of love Jeanxxxx
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Dear Barbie,
My heart goes out to you. I remember all this from when I was first ill. The sheer frustration of getting the help that you so desperately need from people who aren't available and don't care enough. Amanda has given you the best advice. Once trust, respect and support have gone they will not come back. Transfer and tell all parties why.
Thinking of you with love,
Eleanor x
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Dear Barbie, I read your post and agree very much with the other replies that you have had. Having this disease is bad enough without having to cope with a team who appear hopeless. If we are given a medication to take and it is making us ill then prompt expert attention is needed. Wishing you the best of luck with getting good help for your problems. Best wishes, Fiona
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Hi Barbara - am so sorry to hear all this. I hope the nurse calls you on Monday. You can look into the private consultation options while you are waiting. I went through very similar situation last year and know that you just feel like giving up completely. I did manage to finally get an early appointment so I hope the nurse can do the same for you. Am thinking of you and hope you are managing to get some rest.
Julie
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Hi Barbara I'm sorry you're having such an awful time; it's unbelievable really, isn't it? I can't believe, for instance, that your doctor won't prescribe anything. Mine will, and always tells me if I'm in increased pain not to wait for my next rheumy appointment but to go back and see him (the gp) inbetween rheumy appointments. It does sound as though you need to change your gp and your hospital team if at all possible. Is moving to another area a bit drastic? Anthea x
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Hi Anthea, The GP practice I am with has 6 doctors, but I could only get an appt with the one I saw. One of the others told me before Christmas to come back if the pain was worse and he would look into pain patches, prednisone and dep injections. He only works there one day a week, so hard to get to see him. The others werent very helpful while I was waiting to be diagnosed, and they kep telling me its OA and nothing we can do, and cant refer to rheumy for OA, they wouldnt even do an RA factor test, even though my mother had RA when she was young. I can change to the next hospital, and there fore a new team, if I can get referred, this is something I will make another appt for at the GP, and try to get to see the other one. Thanks Julie, I cant believe it either!!! I never thought that it would be so difficult to get seen when you need to. At the moment I have a rotten cold and have lost my voicie, the family are pleased about the voice part!!! Its probably all stress related, I have tomorrow off, as I go back to the haemiphillia clinic re my bruising for the results, but working with the 2 babies on Tuesday, which to be honest I could do without. Cant change it as off on Wednesday to go to an appt with hubby at cardiac clinic. Thanks everyone for the support x BARBARA
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Hi Bzrbie
I can't add to anything that's already been said, but I just want you to know that I think you've been treated very shabbily. It is time to try something else, be it new GP or consultant, and different drugs. I should certainly look into other practices and consultants, even if it means going private, your health is too important for you to wait around to be seen and given the right treatment.
I hope you have better luck this coming week.
Lyn
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Hi Barbie, I can`t offer any more advice, as everyone has already given it, but I do hope you get some satisfaction soon, as the system seems to be letting you down. We have a small GP practice - only two doctors, both of whom are excellent, but our local hospital wasn`t really up to scratch as far as rheumatology went, and my GP was happy to refer me to another. I have to travel about 14 miles now, but it was well worth it, so don`t be afraid to change. Good luck, Kathleen x
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Amanda, your in bnox is full cant post the msg x x BARBARA
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Oh okay! It gets full after just a few messages! LOL
Off to empty!
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